Questioning ‘How to debate a creationist’ by Michael Shermer
A skeptic gives advice about how to debate creationists, but
he unwittingly shows the religious nature of his position.
[CMI Editor: Murk Post, from Canada, wrote to Dr Michael
Shermer, editor of The Skeptic, who wrote a booklet titled,
How to debate a creationist, asking him some questions and
making some observations. It is a very interesting, incisive
response, presented here with a couple of editorial
additions, but substantially as Murk wrote it.]
Shermer: “With so many mutually-exclusive creationist
doctrines all claiming infallibility and final Truth, a logical
default position to fall to is science because it never makes
absolutist truth claims. In science, all conclusions are
provisional, subject to new evidence and better arguments,
the vary antithesis of religious faith.” (p. 22 in the booklet).
You present 6 points:
Conflicting truth doctrines exist
Logical default position = science
Because it never makes absolutist truth claims
In science all conclusions are provisional (tentative)
Science is subject to new evidence and better arguments
Science is counter proposition—in direct contrast to
religious faith (antithesis)
Inspecting the six points…
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Sensational Seeds—compact packages attest to God’s handiwork
A farmer plants a seed. Night and day, whether he sleeps or
gets up, the seed sprouts and grows, though he does not
know how …
[This is an expanded version of an article originally
published in The Old Schoolhouse magazine.]
“A man scattered seed on the ground. Night and day,
whether he sleeps or gets up, the seed sprouts and grows,
though he does not know how.”
Though he does not know how. Those words of Jesus (Mark
4:26b–27) are still true today. As a trained PhD plant
scientist myself, I can vouch that, despite the many
thousands of man-hours of ongoing research devoted to
studying seeds, seed germination and seedling growth, we
still don’t really know in detail how it is possible—certainly
no-one has been able to build anything that can do what a
seed does! The scientific journals are full of research
papers with detailed descriptions of some of the many
intricate processes going on in and around the seed as it
sprouts and grows, but just how it happens all by itself
remains a marvel. As Jesus went on to say: “All by itself the
soil produces grain—first the stalk, then the head, then the
full kernel in the head.” (Mark 4:28)…
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Monkey madness
It wasn’t exactly a Shakespearean response that
researchers got when they put a keyboard and computer
screen in the local zoo’s monkey enclosure!
When arguing that life could have arisen by chance,
evolutionists will often state that—given enough
time—anything could happen, regardless of how improbable
it might seem. For example, prominent evolutionist Julian
Huxley (1887–1975) said that, given enough time, monkeys
typing randomly could eventually type out the complete
works of Shakespeare.
Since then, others too, such as Stephen Hawking and
Richard Dawkins, have made similar pronouncements about
monkeys’ random typing being able to produce one of
Shakespeare’s sonnets, or at least a sentence from one of
his plays.
But when Plymouth University (UK) researchers installed a
keyboard and computer screen in the monkey enclosure at
Paignton Zoo, home to six Sulawesi crested macaques, it
didn’t result in a nicely typed set of the complete works of
Shakespeare. Neither did they get a sonnet. Nor even a
single word of Shakespeare…
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David
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other often.
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